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Wednesday, October 1, 2008

Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Kender/Trim

Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Kender/Trim: "

Touching base again








































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::I'm most MIA for a bit - mid-semester marking is still underway, and I've got a couple of articles for 0.7 to work on. But I picked up all the primary sources that are needed for this at last, so that much is under control. - [[User:Bilby|Bilby]] ([[User talk:Bilby|talk]]) 14:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::I'm most MIA for a bit - mid-semester marking is still underway, and I've got a couple of articles for 0.7 to work on. But I picked up all the primary sources that are needed for this at last, so that much is under control. - [[User:Bilby|Bilby]] ([[User talk:Bilby|talk]]) 14:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::*I have marked the unsourced content, and would like to either replace or delete it so we can then go on to a final review. --[[User:Gavin.collins|Gavin Collins]] ([[User talk:Gavin.collins|talk]]) 14:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::*I have marked the unsourced content, and would like to either replace or delete it so we can then go on to a final review. --[[User:Gavin.collins|Gavin Collins]] ([[User talk:Gavin.collins|talk]]) 14:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::*I'm all for the replacing. I'll have a good look at the Fearlessness section today - I'll print it out so that I can review when I have some free moments. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 14:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2008 October 1

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:<span class='plainlinksneverexpand lx'>[[:Image:{{ucfirst:Scalestep-002.PNG}}]] ([{{fullurl:Image:Scalestep-002.PNG|action=delete}} delete] | [[Image talk:{{ucfirst:Scalestep-002.PNG}}|talk]] | [{{fullurl::Image:{{ucfirst:Scalestep-002.PNG}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode::Image:{{ucfirst:Scalestep-002.PNG}}}}}} logs])</span> - uploaded by [[User talk:Komponisto#Image:Scalestep-002.PNG listed for deletion|Komponisto]] (<span class='plainlinks'>[{{fullurl:User_talk:Komponisto|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify]</span><!-- Fix me: The included template outputs a section header, but Mediawiki with 'require edit summaries' turned on won't save the page unless a section header is added. Also, if possible please populate the new talk page message with the name of the deleted image.--> | [[Special:Contributions/Komponisto|contribs]]).
:<span class='plainlinksneverexpand lx'>[[:Image:{{ucfirst:Scalestep-002.PNG}}]] ([{{fullurl:Image:Scalestep-002.PNG|action=delete}} delete] | [[Image talk:{{ucfirst:Scalestep-002.PNG}}|talk]] | [{{fullurl::Image:{{ucfirst:Scalestep-002.PNG}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode::Image:{{ucfirst:Scalestep-002.PNG}}}}}} logs])</span> - uploaded by [[User talk:Komponisto#Image:Scalestep-002.PNG listed for deletion|Komponisto]] (<span class='plainlinks'>[{{fullurl:User_talk:Komponisto|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify]</span><!-- Fix me: The included template outputs a section header, but Mediawiki with 'require edit summaries' turned on won't save the page unless a section header is added. Also, if possible please populate the new talk page message with the name of the deleted image.--> | [[Special:Contributions/Komponisto|contribs]]).
*Same as [[#Image:Scalestepex.PNG|Image:Scalestepex.PNG]]. [[User:OsamaK|O]][[User talk:OsamaK|sama]][[Special:Contributions/OsamaK|K]] 14:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
*Same as [[#Image:Scalestepex.PNG|Image:Scalestepex.PNG]]. [[User:OsamaK|O]][[User talk:OsamaK|sama]][[Special:Contributions/OsamaK|K]] 14:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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:<span class='plainlinksneverexpand lx'>[[:Image:{{ucfirst:Sept_07045.jpg}}]] ([{{fullurl:Image:Sept_07045.jpg|action=delete}} delete] | [[Image talk:{{ucfirst:Sept_07045.jpg}}|talk]] | [{{fullurl::Image:{{ucfirst:Sept_07045.jpg}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode::Image:{{ucfirst:Sept_07045.jpg}}}}}} logs])</span> - uploaded by [[User talk:Garciah08vegah#Image:Sept_07045.jpg listed for deletion|Garciah08vegah]] (<span class='plainlinks'>[{{fullurl:User_talk:Garciah08vegah|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify]</span><!-- Fix me: The included template outputs a section header, but Mediawiki with 'require edit summaries' turned on won't save the page unless a section header is added. Also, if possible please populate the new talk page message with the name of the deleted image.--> | [[Special:Contributions/Garciah08vegah|contribs]]).
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*Orphaned personal image. [[User:OsamaK|O]][[User talk:OsamaK|sama]][[Special:Contributions/OsamaK|K]] 14:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Non-free content review

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*'''Keep'''. The fact that this image is derivative only prevents it from being used as [[free content]]. It does not prevent its use under U.S. [[fair use]] law. (See [[Derivative work#Compared to fair use]].) The use of the image [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1950s_Topps&oldid=242047648 here] clearly conforms to fair use law. And what is more significant for this forum, being derivative does not disqualify it under [[WP:NFCC|Wikipedia’s non-free use policy]]. The use of the image clearly conforms to that policy. —[[User:TEB728|teb728]] [[User talk:TEB728|t]] [[Special:Contributions/TEB728|c]] 09:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. The fact that this image is derivative only prevents it from being used as [[free content]]. It does not prevent its use under U.S. [[fair use]] law. (See [[Derivative work#Compared to fair use]].) The use of the image [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1950s_Topps&oldid=242047648 here] clearly conforms to fair use law. And what is more significant for this forum, being derivative does not disqualify it under [[WP:NFCC|Wikipedia’s non-free use policy]]. The use of the image clearly conforms to that policy. —[[User:TEB728|teb728]] [[User talk:TEB728|t]] [[Special:Contributions/TEB728|c]] 09:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' This is just more in the back and forth war between these two, both of whom should be banned for wasting peoples time with this petty nonsense. As I have said before [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:1950s_Topps&diff=prev&oldid=237504647], I would also contend that (and this will make Libro0 scream sockpuppet yet again) that what he is claiming as the Topps logo is not the logo. I have found a piece of letterhead they used in the 1960s on a contract [http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/scripophily_2014_575674465] and would suspect that they used something similar in the previous decade. They used the same logo on that letterhead on stock certificates as late at 1978 [http://www.hrharmer.com/sales/2978/images/1282.jpg] [http://www.scripophily.com/webcart/vigs/toppschewingvig3.jpg] [http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/scripophily_2014_626927113]. It would appear that Libro0 used the text from a package of 1952 Topps baseball cards, which he assumed was the company logo. As you can see from this image [http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/public/news_images/4/45868_98522_4.jpg] they did use that text for the company name on the individual packs of cards as well as the word 'baseball' on the package. However, they used a different typeface for the company name on the box. This would provide strong evidence that Libro0's image is not in fact the company logo. If we look at packs of cards from 1960 [http://www.psacard.com/smrweb/backissues/smr0906/1960toppsbaseballwaxpack.jpg] and 1964 [http://www.psacard.com/smrweb/backissues/smr0906/1964toppsbaseballcellopack.jpg] [http://www.psacard.com/smrweb/backissues/smr0906/1964toppsfootballwaxpack.jpg] they just used the company name as stylized text. One give away should be the lack of a registered trademark symbol. It appears that by 1969, the company did put the company logo on their packs of cards [http://www.psacard.com/smrweb/backissues/smr0906/1969toppsbaseballcellopack.jpg] [http://www.psacard.com/smrweb/backissues/smr0906/1970toppsbaseballwaxpack.jpg]. Putting this up as the logo would be false information. Libro0 ignored taking action the compromise solution I suggested of posting an image of a typical product package [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:1950s_Topps&diff=next&oldid=237540565] which leads me to suspect this is just another salvo in the war between him and Baseball Card Guy. These two waste people's time trying to straighten out the fallout from their battles. [[User:Your Radio Enemy|Your Radio Enemy]] ([[User talk:Your Radio Enemy|talk]]) 14:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 September 30

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:'''Keep:''' Dissatisfaction with coverage of this particular category doesn't mean it isn't of interest. This just sounds like a clean up issue of an otherwise valid category. [[User:BookhouseBoy|BookhouseBoy]] ([[User talk:BookhouseBoy|talk]]) 00:09, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:'''Keep:''' Dissatisfaction with coverage of this particular category doesn't mean it isn't of interest. This just sounds like a clean up issue of an otherwise valid category. [[User:BookhouseBoy|BookhouseBoy]] ([[User talk:BookhouseBoy|talk]]) 00:09, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:*What, per Wikipedia policies and guidelines, is the objective definition of 'monster'? [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 01:32, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:*What, per Wikipedia policies and guidelines, is the objective definition of 'monster'? [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 01:32, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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:**The definition is given in the [[monster]] article. 'The term 'monster' refers to a being that is a gross exception to the norms of some ecosystem. Usually characterized by an ability to destroy human life or humanity, more than an example of 'survival of the fittest', natural law, or innate evil.' [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 14:21, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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::*The definition is given in the [[monster]] article. 'The term 'monster' refers to a being that is a gross exception to the norms of some ecosystem. Usually characterized by an ability to destroy human life or humanity, more than an example of 'survival of the fittest', natural law, or innate evil.' [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 14:21, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::*First, that definition is unsourced and second, Wikipedia is not a reliable source for itself. [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 14:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' 'monster movie' is a valid film genre, so there are things that are validly called fictional monsters. [[Special:Contributions/70.51.8.75|70.51.8.75]] ([[User talk:70.51.8.75|talk]]) 05:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' 'monster movie' is a valid film genre, so there are things that are validly called fictional monsters. [[Special:Contributions/70.51.8.75|70.51.8.75]] ([[User talk:70.51.8.75|talk]]) 05:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:*And the subjects of those movies, vampires, werewolves and the like, are found in the specific categories for them ([[:Category:Fictional vampires]], [[:Category:Fictional werewolves]], etc.). [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 13:32, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:*And the subjects of those movies, vampires, werewolves and the like, are found in the specific categories for them ([[:Category:Fictional vampires]], [[:Category:Fictional werewolves]], etc.). [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 13:32, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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